John Ho's intimidating email

Note: This will be the last post on Lions Club of Kota Kinabalu Host for at least a month. It may be even 2 or 3 months.

This is a lengthy post but for those who would like to know why DG Eve Wong did not respond, this post may be able to shed some light. This email shows how devious John SF Ho can be.

Eve Wong had written an email to John SF Ho and John responded as follows.

My comments in red after each paragraph of John’s email was written and sent off to Eve Wong, International president of LCI and David Kingsbury of LCI legal. This was in March 2017.

John S F Ho <jsfh.marcia@gmail.com>

To:evewonglb@gmail.com

Cc:luqmanm2002@yahoo.co.uk,thomashtp@gmail.com,president@lionsclubs.org,david.kingsbury@lionsclubs.org,songleenator@gmail.com

21 Mar 2017 at 01:56

Dear DG Eve Wong,

A stitch in time saves nine - inaction of DG, VDG, PDG's and LCI

A leader should shoulder responsibility for making decisions that will have implications for many others.

However, that does not come naturally to most 'so called leaders'. Their natural inclination is to pass the buck to someone else.

In the case of Lions Club of Kota Kinabalu Host, decisions could have been taken by the club members when Past President Horace Ho Toh Chee tried to get PDG John Ho and me to bury the hatchet. I accepted but John Ho declined to make up.

Money Laundering - a thought

On 22.12.2016 I emailed all Lions Club of Kota Kinabalu Host (LCKKHost) members and asked as to how many bank accounts were operated by LCKKHost.

None of the members responded to my email.

Now, it has been confirmed that LCKKHost operated 5 bank accounts and a fixed deposit account. 

Most members are aware of only 2 bank accounts.

ROS is given the balances of only 2 bank accounts. As such the requirement of the Societies Act to report any money received from outside the country cannot have been fulfilled.

Lions Club - Letterhead - A revisit

       Many years ago the letterhead of LCKKHost was like the above where the 
       named officers on the left could use the letter head for official purposes.

My posts have been heavy reading during the last few days. Let us relax a little and think together on something else for a day or so.

Please read my post on 3.11.2016 (more than a year ago) at: https://myclubexperiences.blogspot.my/2016/11/letter-head.html

At that point in time when I wrote the above post it did not make any sense at all as to why the club president Thomas Ho Thau Phin changed his mind about permitting me to use the letter head.

I was the chairman of Environment for year 2016/2017 and I was a committee member of “My kampong” project.

Passing the buck (Part 2) - Eve Wong

Here are emails to and fro DG Eve Wong. I am posting all of them at the same time as I will be very busy with some work next month and in April.

Please read the emails in their entirety as only then will you get a grasp of the actual situation. I did not rush into anything at all. I wrote my emails and gave enough time and I am only posting these emails now as no Lion/Lions Club or even LCI had come forward to settle this problem amicably.

Passing the buck (part 1) details

The following are the full contents of emails I posted extracts of yesterday. I had not posted  all these emails for a year hoping matters will be settled amicably.

Now, that even LCI Legal is trying to pass the buck to me I think it is high time I lay all the cards on the table.

Here is an email to PDG Dato Lawrence Ting that I wrote on 12.12.2016 while I was still a member of LCKKHost.

Passing the buck (part 1)

I wrote to LCI Finance on 12.12.2016 and then to LCI Finance, Administration and Legal on 13.12.2016 and again on 18.12.2016 and continued with many more emails.

I wrote to most of the PDG’s in District 308A2 and to the DG and VDG.

The then VDG Pelly Lee did not respond to any of the emails I sent to her as shown below. I shall post the full emails to her tomorrow for anyone interested in reading the details. The following are extracts.

End of the road with LCIF

The email in my post yesterday from LCIF was the last email from them. Upon my reminder to LCIF on  8.2.2018 (see last email below) I received an email from LCI Legal. 

I shall hold on to that email from LCI and go back in time and post the emails to some of our local dignitaries so that you may be able to see the sequence of event more clearly.

Meanwhile, here is my response subsequent to the email from LCIF in yesterdays post.

luqman michel <luqmanm2002@yahoo.co.uk>

To:…. (Name removed)

6 Feb at 05:59

Thank you… (name removed),

I do hope Legal will follow up soon.

I have written several emails to them since January 2017*

and they have not responded.

More correspondences to and fro LCIF/ Luqman

For those readers who are new to my blog, please read my post on 13. 2. 2018 and earlier.

Here is another one of my emails to LCIF

From: luqman michel [mailto:luqmanm2002@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 3:31 AM
To: name removed @lionsclubs.org>
Subject: Response: LCI contribution/ LCIF Grant

Dear Lion…. ( name removed),

PDG John SF Ho who is the master mind of 3 secret bank accounts in Lions Club of Kota Kinabalu Host (LCKKHOST) is the main culprit.

I have attached the newspaper report and also the response to the newspaper report which is what I am questioning LCIF about.

LCKKHost has said in the newspaper that any excess from monies received from LCI and sister clubs are for club account. Money received from LCIF via our sister clubs are banked in the secret bank accounts.

Money from these accounts have been used to purchase air conditioners for the club as well as payment for renovation expenses.

The club claims that since the money is not from public donations it may be used for administrative expenses. However, even some public donations are banked into the secret bank accounts.

This has been going on for years and I understand that RM2,000 per Past President was paid for purchase of the office lot and the balance was excess from project funds. This is hearsay and I don’t have any evidence. Twenty years ago the past presidents would at the most have been about 20. The balance of more than RM100,000 for the building cost of RM140,000 is said to be from excess funds from projects.

Feel free to ask for any further information you may need. All information you may need is in my blog at: www.myclubexperiences.blogspot.com

The only logical answer to my question would be; regardless of whether the money received is from sister clubs, LCI or LCIF it cannot be used for administrative purposes.

I hope to get a response soon.

 Attachments 1& 2 are newspaper articles (the same article)

Attachment 3 is the clubs response to attachment 1

Attachment 4 is a short write up of monies received from Sister Clubs and LCIF

Kind regards,

Luqman Michel

Here is the immediate response from LCIF

From:  Name removed
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 9:45 AM
To: 'luqman michel' <luqmanm2002@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Response: LCI contribution/ LCIF Grant

Lion Luqman,

I’m not certain I can be of much assistance with this situation as there is no reference to an LCIF grant being issued to this club. I will instead forward this to our office in Mumbai and have them take a look.

Name removed

……

On Thursday, 25 January 2018, 23:47:45 GMT+8, Name removed@lionsclubs.org> wrote:

Ignore that last e-mail. The India office would not have any authority over this matter. What country is this taking place in?

Email privacy

Should emails be posted for public viewing?

It is my opinion that emails or letters that are confidential and which contain trade secrets should not be made public.

However, my emails to and from LCI/LCIF and LCKKHost members, I believe, are beneficial to the other Lions Clubs as well as the public. Even many senior Lions are not aware of the many things I have discovered and disseminated through my emails. 

Correspondence to and fro LCIF and me

Here is my response to LCIF. At this point in time I did not know that the grants were from LCIF. LCKKHost had said in the local newspaper that funds were received from LCI. 

From: luqman michel [mailto:luqmanm2002@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 1:41 PM
To: @lionsclubs.org>
Subject: Response: LCI contribution

LCIF- Knock and the door will be opened

On 18.1.2018 I wrote an email to LCI and attached the Daily Express article that was the reply from LCKKHost.

When I did not get a response I wrote again on 25/1/2018 and a new door opened.

Here is the email I wrote:

Short lived excitement with LCI’s response

I did not receive any response to my 2 emails to Public Affairs, Administration, Finance or Legal Division and neither was there one from Mr.David Kingsbury.

Then in December 2017 I wrote the following email to LCI.

Pleasant surprise from LCI Public Affairs Manager

I couldn't believe my eyes when I received the following email from LCI Public Affairs Manager.

AND it was on my 65th birthday!

Please note that she had addressed it to me, Legal, Administration, Finance and to Mr.Kingsbury.

LaJoye, Dane <Dane.LaJoye@lionsclubs.org>

To:luqman michel,Legal,Finance,District Administration,Kingsbury, David

4 Apr 2017 at 20:59

Dear Lion,

My request to LCI to post on Facebook

Here is one of the many emails to LCI that was not responded to.
This email was written in April 2017.

I shall wait until April 2018 for an alternative dispute resolution.

luqman michel <luqmanm2002@yahoo.co.uk>

To:legal@lionsclubs.org,finance@lionsclubs.org,District Administration,David Kingsbury,Eve Wong

4 Apr 2017 at 17:09

Dear Friends,

I have decided to posts articles on Facebook and hope my friends on FB can do something to get you guys at LCI to act.

This is getting ridiculous where my emails are not even acknowledged receipt by you.

My email to LCI dated 22.3.2017

From: luqman michel <luqmanm2002@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "david.kingsbury@lionsclubs.org" <david.kingsbury@lionsclubs.org>; "president@lionsclubs.org" <president@lionsclubs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 March 2017, 20:41
Subject: Fw: Lions Club of Kota Kinabalu Host/ LCI email

Dear Mr.David and Mr. Bob Corlew,

I had written a letter requesting CDRP to be instituted by Ms.Eve Wong on 12.2.2017.

To-date despite many emails to her she has not been able to set up a committee to settle this matter between me and my former club.

Sirs, the CDRP procedures states:

My email to DG Eve Wong - 20.2.2017

Here is another email to DG Eve Wong which was not responded to.

luqman michel <luqmanm2002@yahoo.co.uk>

To:evewonglb@gmail.com

20 Feb 2017 at 06:32

Dear DG Eve Wong,

At our meeting on 12.2.2017 I gave you a letter and 3 sets of documents for
you and for handing over to Thomas Ho and John Ho.

My email to LCI on 14.2.2017

luqman michel <luqmanm2002@yahoo.co.uk>

To:David.Kingsbury@lionsclubs.org,Finance@lionsclubs.org,legal@lionsclubs.org,districtadministration@lionsclubs.org

Cc:evewonglb@gmail.com

14 Feb 2017 at 05:17

Dear Mr. David Kingsbury,

Thank you for your email. I  understand what you have said in your email

and one previous email written to me on 4.1.2017.

My emails to PDG's and to LCI

The following are a few emails I had sent to PDG's and to LCI since December 2016. If the PDG's or DG or LCI had taken the Bull by the horn matters could have been resolved in a much more amicable way. 

Currently I have initiated emails with LCIF and hope they would be more responsive.